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Mystery of Capricorn

topic posted Thu, April 21, 2005 - 4:53 PM by  Daniel
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Has anyone here been close to a Capricorn? How about in love with one?
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  • Mom, my best friend(s)...

    Steady reliable threaders they are... Absolutely love 'm!
    • Care to elaborate? Being Cancerian, I'm trying to figure out how to deal with them properly.....
      • "to deal with them properly".
        I sense a bit of a struggle ;-)

        Every sign has its pros and cons.

        I suspect that you may be talking about, um, the 'stubbornness' perhaps; their determination to implement their will and their seemingly unemotional going about it in fulfilling their 'plan'. I don't know... If one should be poking you from the side, then I suggest that you step back a little and try to bring yourself into a logical frame of mind. Then, try telling them gently that it's not working, and that if they truly care for you, that their steady poking and pushing must seize, for that otherwise you will have to excuse yourself from their sight for an undisclosed amount of time. This has usually worked pretty well for me. Just know that they mean well; 'poking' is just their natural way, which makes them who they are; this serves them well. They are achievers, they build bridges and they forge relationships that if nurtured well will last for as long as you allow them to last; a life-time, if you care. They are very sweet, honest people; kinda like Aries minus some of the fire... In my case, being Scorpio, I find the shared interest in the occult and a seemingly inherent drive to uphold 'justice' wherever we are to be one of the more interesting shared aspects and points of attraction between the two. The Cancer-Capricorn dynamic may be a slightly more intricate matter to properly maintain. Try to take into account that their emotional treshold is not quite as 'expansive' as yours. Be gentle, and they will listen. Just my $0.02. They both start with "Ca" though ;-)~

        Feel free to tell me that I'm completely off.

        d.
        • I loved that synopsis you gave, I am 'inextricably linked' to a Cap sun with a most charming Libra ASC. conj. Neptune&Mars, natally, squaring sun. Seems nice, but moon in Gemini in 8th adds complications to matters......
          I have Leo ASC. square Neptune &Mars on one side, but square Moon on the other - making a lovely TSQUARE!! He also has heaps of air which frustrated the hell outta me -m I'm all earth, water and fire!
          Yet we can't 'let go'...........
      • If you ever need help scaring them away, call on me. I'm a Cancer too who just tried recently to seduce a Cappy. I was halfway there, got a yes to the date, but unfortunately the date never came and he got cold feet and decided it was best for us to not go out at all (because he is good friends with my brother and it would be strange and blah blah blah blah)

        I think my confidence in asking him out and coming on strong scared him away.

        Cancers and Capricorns are wonderful together though.
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        "Being Cancerian , I'm trying to figure out how to deal with them properly."

        Is this "them" properly really mean "her?'

        Capricorn woman here!

        I read that five times before dissecting it .

        It comes off slightly confusing yet alluring and sexy in a cute-yet weird sort of way so ....you

        are on the right tract and get bonus round points.

        But your Capricorn female in question will think these questions through and won't exactly

        ask what is meant by it because you wrote 'them."

        Capricorn's want to know who you are .

        Capricorn's want you to be yourself and appreciate and respect them for who they are .

        Capricorn's take to heart your words and what they are saying and your approach to things

        and such.

        No actions are overlooked whether inquired about or not.

        Don't try to make huge impression or we will expect that and more from you.

        Anything less is a betrayal and seen as a disguise to trick us .

        If you dispise the things a Capricorn loves then say so without belittling- just give the facts.

        We can deal with it and find things both will like and can still have separate interest.

        And under no circumstance pretend you like things and are a certian way other than who

        you really are.

        Just be yourself - Capricorn's are negoicators we need to know what we are befriending or

        falling in love with

        If she is the Apple of your eye create a special eclusive status for her.

        If you are considering her to be your girlfriend ,anything regarding the opposite sex

        which is not mother or children- run it pass her and describe the relationship.

        IF she becomes a girlfriend always introduce her as such.

        Move in slowly - if you declare your feelings and she doesn't say no way ! or give a negitve

        verbal response then don't assume the worst of what may appear to be indifference.

        If you just want a date to see where things will go ----then say that using clear and direct

        words.

        Or become a friend first and later if things seem be right ---then drop the ball later.

        Don't say anything unless you absolutely mean it .

        It will take longer for you to get a positive response than a negaitive one.

        We are slow moving annoying goats , yet in another universe deep within the sculpture of

        ice we are blushing and shaking in the knees while screaming and giggling with delight.

        A Capricorn woman offers a lot in return for your loyality , honesty and patience.Capricorn

        women have a very private and passonate side which is nothing short of

        unforgettable .

        Best of luck , if anything we can make very loyal and long lasting friends .

        K. -

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          I am a Capricorn with a Scorpio ascendant and I have to agree with Kate.
          I am not a romantic person and usually get a bit embarassed by romantic overtures.
          I don't like dating because men then put on a different persona.
          In the beginning (pre-dating) they act normal and nice and I like them, but after they got the date secured they are trying to impress me which doesn't impress me at all. I liked them when they were acting... wel normal! Just be yourself, do not try to be a better, more sophisticated version of yourself. Romance is nice.. but it is not as important as treating a woman as an equal and not just someone you have to woo or to conquer.
          I know I am completely opposite of most people's idea of dating but I find that the friends first and than casually rolling into something more, approach very nice. Just on equal footing.

          good luck!
        • Fabulous, wot about Cap Males?
          I'm a Virgo and he's supposed to be my ideal, but more and more I'm finding it too hard to go on after 8long years of association.......
      • Wow. As a capricorn, and talking to a cancer....I would be cautious. We are opposites of the zodiac, and find each other fascinating, but frustrating. We are NOT the openly emotional ones, much unlike cancers. However, we are both prone to sulk when upset. Most of my relationships with cancers (in and out of the bedroom) usually end in tears and lost communication. Now, I'm not saying you are fighting a lost cause, but a touchy one. Do not disrespect capricorn. We don't mind holding grudges, but neither do you (cancers). So...proceed lightly. We are introverts and our emotions are private to us. If you want to get under our skin, you will NOT pry. Cancer is a water sign. Capricorn is earth. We are to 'cool, dry' ones. Often preceived as cold, but if treated right, we are deeply passionate. I do wish you luck. I hope I was not too negative, but just trying to let you see it from the female cap side of things.
  • I'm a capricorn, and I've been in love with capricorns. The loyalty is all there...caps like direction, and passion (in and out of the bedroom), and caps work from a logical point of view...depersonalizing themselves from the situation, any situation, to sort out the information. Probably the best consistant sex I've ever had...caps don't like to support others unless that is the goal. My mom is a cap and she always wanted to stay at home and raise the kids...she did a great job...just use plain language, as hints and analogies are too much effort to figure out... the overactive capricorn mind will break it down, then break it down again, and again, and again. The result is like playing the telephone game with non-english participants in an english world...Still, though, the sign I have the most affection for.
    • My high school boyfriend was a Capricorn & a wonderful, creative friend & sometimes lover now (also named Daniel) is another. I keep in mind that the symbol for a Capricorn, in it's most magical manifestation is the unicorn...

      love all-ways,
      mem
    • Andrew is right, you certainly want to be up on the Ps and Qs of social graces. The Cancer Cap combination is a very nice one. But it's best that you don't shut down and shut up when you're unhappy like Cancereans are apt to do. You Cap partner will want to help and will feel alienated by your silence, we're sensitive you know.
      To start a realtionship with a Capricorn woman you'll have to make the first move. She may have a burning passion for you, but she'll be reluctant to show you this until she's sure of your interest in her and sincerity of feeling for her.
      Capricorn women like to be impressed by the men they date, but they find bragging unseemly. Find a middle ground here, impress her with your mind or you're accomplishments, do you play violin or do you have a knack at picking stocks? We're moved by kindness as well are you good with kids or dogs, do you volunteer at work or in a homeless shelter? If the answer is yes to any of those questions, include that information somewhere in your conversation with her.
  • I am a Cappy, and I do have to admit, I am different from my other female friends. They talk of romantic dinners and gifts and blah blah. Romantic mushy gushy isn't my thing. In fact, it kind of embarasses me cause it puts me on the spot to say something "out of a soap opera" which I don't watch. I have a sense of humor (sometimes one only the guys can appreciate) and I can be sarcastic.
    • Me too!! I'm a Cappy & don't have many female friends b/c there isn't usually any common interests - I get along with the guys much more easily. It isn't that I don't like the romantic dinners & stuff, but I don't feel the need to gush about it with other chics. I gush maybe with my mother, and then keep it private.
      • I must agree, I'm a cap w/ scorpio rising and a moon in pieces, cancer's is our oppsite sign, so they have what we don't; emotion. They are great friends because my mom is a cancer, the worry and panic more than caps-to me. How to deal with us: just be true, loyal, and honest and we all will get along. And I don't have many female friends, mostly male because me and other females don't really get along, especially when it comes to discussing intimate details about my relationships, its a real big NO. To me, guys seem more easy to talk to, they don 't ask a bounch of questions and stuff, they're just good company to chill-out with.
      • ditto, I didn't know that the few female friend thing was a Capricorn thing. Neat. But I have a Taurus moon so wine and dine me all you want. Save the flowers though unless you want to put petals in the bathtub. I've heard quite a few Capricorn woman talk about how fond they are of long luxurious baths.
  • Daniel,

    I see this is an old post, but a subject I have some experience with. My dad is a Cap and my youngest son is a Triple Cap with Mercury, Venus, Mars, Uranus, and Neptune all in Cap. He is an amazing child and I don't believe I say that just because I am his mom..lol. He is very intuitive (12th house Moon). He is also very sensitive (may be the moon again). He can be very serious about anything he is interested in. He is more mature than others his age. He is also very black and white.

    On to my dad. Dad is a very successful business man. He was a born engineer (Cap Sun, Virgo Rising and Moon). He can also be very black and white. He detests lying and as long as I would tell him the truth, he wouldn't get mad. Lie to him and it is all over. He is a workaholic in many ways. To him, money and "stuff" equals love. He tends to be very loyal to his friends and many of them he has had for most of his 66 years on this planet. It kind of amazes me. He was the validictorian of his HS class and tops in college as well. Anything he touches turns to gold, except marriages!...lol.

    I dated 2 Caps. They too were very work focused. Very intense. If a Cap doesn't care about something, it seems that there isn't much you can do to change their minds.

    Hope that helps a bit.
  • I'm a cap and I have a new friendship with a cancerian (female). And its been a little challenging. I'm the type of cap that gets my business done and I only have a limited amount of patience for someone who is less driven or I guess less active in moving their life forward, which I have found my new cancerian friend to be. I actually needed a break for awhile b/c our differences were clashing. But it gave me time to get the understanding that people have their own pace and if its not affecting my life, I just need to stay out of it.

    But in other areas, me and my cancerian friend have a similar type of humor, have similar interests in entertainment as well. We get along very well in all areas except how we run our lives.
    • Oh, I didn't answer "how to deal with one." We are very into stability, security, and loyalty. So, if you exude those characteristics, you won't have to 'deal' with us, we'll be quite content. And we're pretty intelligent, so a witty sense of humor goes a very long way!
      • Think of Capricorn a little differently than the established view. First of all, think of Cap as an alchemist. Changing lead into Gold. Thats what they do becuase they are so focused, there a Cardinal sign, aggresive in silence. Cancers rule absortion, the Moon absorbs more light in relativity to us than any other planet, with that, Cancers constantly absorb what ever they need for Emotional stability, being food, to water, to wealth. Cancers collect and store energy (Material comforts, home) Now look at Capricorn, they do not absorb, they use what they got, and they will use what is available, they have no needs because all they need is there FOCUS. Yep Capricorns can be the most focused people on the planet, and in my eyes they are. Even when you read your chart, Saturn represent restrictions, thats focus on one aspect and not on a variety of aspects. Centrialized, stoic, constructive in analasis. Serious but with a childlike naivity but not in the lest bit Niave. COMMON SENSE rules. Steadfast and willing to take the time to succeed in what it is they like to do, because success is daily doing. Extreme Practicality, no waste. They are cautious, it seems they never take a chance when in fact its the chances that they take that they succeed in because of Focus, common sense, serious, childlike, and a given ability to sense what is needed. There stoic nature makes them like wallflowers until someone talks to them, then the games begin. Dry humour, and Capricorns seem to grow up fast and get childlike at they get older. Capricorn senses the spirituality in him, understands the connection to all, thats why they need nothing and use everything. Capricorns are here to develop a true connection with Wisdom. Thats there real goal.
        • Thanks Brian, you make us CAPS look good, we always seem to get the bad rap, like unconventional, boring, stubborn and other ridgid chararistics, and we are indeed focused, reliable people who work hard to get what we want and stop at nothing to get it; maybe that's what bothers people, we won't give up!
          • A perfect example of Capricorn is Howard Hughes, he cared nothing about money because he new money was just a tool. He made billions, but his main drive was to create and succeed in what ever he got involved with. He turned lead into Gold.
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              Oh the alchemist thing.
              Monty Burns portrayed Huges by wearing turn tissue boxes into shoes on the cartoon sitcom The Simpsons .
              I am not sure what he wanted to turn the bottles of urine into.
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                OKay....I'm and Aries sun, Scorpio moon and Leo ascendant and I'm married to a Capricorn Sun, Aquarius moon, and Virgo Ascendant. Not a good match. He's too cold but he provides well for us. He can be overly critical and have blind rages.When he comes home it's like a black cloud enters the house with him. He ignores the kids and me. He's more concerned with finances first and family second. I tell him to pay attention to the kids and worry about everything else after they're in bed.

                I have a few female Cappie friends who are just WONDERFUL though. One Cappie sun and a few Cappie moons.
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                  There are times my husband is delightful and fun to be around and he tries hard to not take out his stress on us.
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.
                    my boyfriend is a Capricorn moon & sometimes his 'coldness' is a little hard to deal with from my side ~ but I see the benefit in our relationship, 'cuz that same 'coldness' is what helps keep him immune to my Scorpionic stinger....... overall, it works quite well :)

                    love all-ways,
                    mem
        • Common sense and focus, both so meaningful and true. I am a capricorn sun with virgo moon and pisces rising. In my experiences (myself and other cappies), when we know our way is most straight forward and all that, when other people try to tell us their own ideas, we can't see past it. We'll be like, "But that way it will...." and stuff. We will be stubborn and won't understand why other people can't see that this way is best.
          And yes, most capricorns do seem to have a dry humor.

          As for capricorn with cancer, my older brother is a cancer and we get along quite well. It is true that cancers tend to get more emotional than us cappies, but for most of the time, cancer and capricorns get along fine and without too much arguments.
  • I am a Cancerian man in a long term relationship with a wonderful Cappy Lady.

    I want to say: please pay attention to Kate's advice above.

    As I read it, I was completely delighted, daydreaming and wistfully reminded of what I love about my Capricorn woman. So very well articulated, Kate! Thank you very much.

    I don't think what I have to offer will actually help much with starting a relationship, but it may be useful somehow I hope.

    My advice: Be yourself.

    All of us Cancers are sensitive, perceptive, almost psychic at times....we read between the lines. But you knew that. Try to use that to read where she needs care, not where you want to put it. Play to your strengths, it's scarier but anything else would be fibbing.

    Keep your heart on your devotion and not just your needs...learn to trust her to take care of that. Capricorn is like Cancer that way: she's not afraid of hard work either, let her work, you won't be sorry.

    As a Cancerian, you have a lot of wonderful stuff to offer a Capricorn, but make no mistake, it won't be Capricorn stuff you will be giving! Give of your uniqueness, it's what she wants from you AND what you want from her.

    If you are like me, Crabs will love to give for giving's sake...it's like crack or something ;) , but learn to give what she really needs... you can know what that is if you let yourself know. Be brave.

    I have learned to show a particularly special respect for her and encourage her in her goals, comfort her in her (kinda secret) loneliness, reassure her in her concerns. Just don't blab about it...not even to your Mom.

    I have found it very, very important in this particular relationship to own all my own feelings, no matter how intense they are from moon to moon (or minute to minute), otherwise she tries to be responsible for them (God bless her for trying) and we both end up frustrated. When I own my feelings, we both win and she can have such incredibly insightful and appropriate advice when I do.

    Don't make the mistake of assuming you want someone to be responsible for your feelings, only try to see how responsible she is with hers....maybe that's what the mysterious attraction is after all. The missing piece of the Circle.

    Trust your sensitivity to guide you, trust your insight into what other people really need. It's scarier that way....but you have to play to your strengths.

    Believe in yourself and she will too.
    • I am a Leo with Gemini rising,my mom is a cap. We seem to be on two totality different planes.This is how I would define her in her sign........dry....boring....self-pity....selfish....discipline.....strong.....determine....great organizer.......you would want this person to do your scheduling they'll keep you on track . Peace Zoe
      • aww... man!

        "dry....boring....self-pity....selfish....discipline.....strong.....determine....great organizer.......you would want this person to do your scheduling they'll keep you on track ."

        i'm so so so not a typical Cappy. I don't relate to any of that! except the strong & determined part... and that's b/cos i have a taurus moon also. i'm more influenced by my Aquarius MC and Venus, which rules my taurus moon and AC. So Cappy plays only a small part in my zodiac makeup.
        • ah.....don't take that so personal it's just a general overview. Of course everyone has their own chart which makes them a individual. I was saying cappy in a broad kind of a statement. Sorry didn't mean to offend you or anyone else. Peace Zoe
          • No offense taken... we all contain within us little pieces that makes up the whole..
            • . "He's more concerned with finances first and family second."

              Thats a certain cap. Buisness first, no matter what. To serious, Thats the down fall of Caps. The rest don't matter if your dealing with levels that are above what others are seeing. Quite often its the capricorn influence in a person to bring the job home and spent his quite time with it,. or ingnore the family becuase of his responsibilty. That goes for the ladies too. Caps feel responsible.
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                Wow I'm a cap,,, I'm not like that at all...
                look at my photo in my avatar I am so good looking
                smart sexy ready to climb to the top,,, even venturing down with other signs at times.

                I am as happy at the top of a mountain as I am swimming in rivers as Ægipan
                Deneb
  • I haven't read anyone else's post and I'm basically just responding to the subject title, and it is this:

    Capricorns are not mysterious.
    • >>Capricorns are not mysterious.<<

      i agree. take them at their word and know that they didn't leave out anything that you need to know.
      oh, and be sure to follow their orders or be prepared to pay a price for your insubordination..
    • Capricorns can be mysterious. How many ppl have you known who'd been planning something for years and years, or maybe even just a few minutes (introverted intellection, remember), all the while no one really knows anything about it? There is definately something to the icy exteriour, you'd like to believe they're just cold but the truth is even the seemingly blandest of flavours can be coloured with the most essential elements. I think a lot of people go about not realizing what the Capricorns true purpose is, and their emotional nature / "soul" becomes only a vehicle for expression. If you love your mate you'll take the time to break through his/her chilling aura and get to know and love Capy. It is RARE that anyone even really touches the surface with Cap. You need to accept that, it can be sad realising u just don't know somebody very well, especially somebody that you think you love...
      • agreed with jeska - caps can be quite mysterious

        From Isabel Hickey's book - - -
        Here is a mystery and when one pierces through the veil Saturn proves to be the Angel of Light that reveals the meaning of it all. He plays a dual role. Saturn rules Capricorn. The greatest mystery sign of the zodiac is Capricorn. If the symbol of Capricorn is made correctly you will see that it is made up of Aries and Leo. The head and the heart. Do you remember what it said in the scriptures? “The lion shall lie down with the lamb.”. When the head and heart are united Saturn’s work is done. The lion is tamed and the ram is the lamb of God. The goat becomes the unicorn whose horn in the middle of the forehead depicts the third eye, and the going up to town of the old nursery rhyme (the lion and the unicorn were going up to town) contains the secret of the going up of the human being to the door of initiation. The defeat of the king of beasts (personality) and the emergence of the initiate dedicated to selflessness and world service are shown. Saturn is the angel who “followed the sons of man into their lowly place”. Saturn was the angel picked to play the least understood role of all; that of Satan or the devil. In Hindu astrology, Saturn is related to Shiva, the destroyer. Saturn’s mission is to destroy all that is outgrown in the personality. Saturn is the bridge between the animal self and the real Self, the spirit. It indicates where our responsibilities lie and what lifes lessons must be.

        re: the quesiton -
        be genuine, relate with integrity, don't be afraid to share the heights or the depths of your soul, don't clutter the house with little trinkets, or the relationship with the mental equivalent thereof, take your time, go for real communication in bed as well as elsewhere, disagree if that's the truth but never disrespect, show warmth and appreciation - something people never quite realize caps actually value a lot - value your time together, let her know she is in your inner circle - she will value that so long as you don't cross way over the line into sticky dependency - listen "with the ear of your ear" or listen to her heart - however you put that - value each others growth together and individually - and of course have fun she will appreciate a dry wit if you have one, or perceptive take on things, etc..

        great luck to you ....
        • I agree with this post 100%. I'm a Sun-Cap, Moon-Pis, Asc-Gem and I feel my life's mission is not for me whatsoever...but to awaken and enlighten people to see the whole world and to care. This is why I'm a libertarian-socialist...not one or the other...both. A balance in life. I support Dennis Kucinich because I feel he is closest to that...but I can see the appeal of a Ron Paul as his liberty stance only strives for human greed...but at the same time promotes independence as people have the answers themselves...not the government. Anyways...these 2 guys are pretty smart...too smart for America...but I will continue to believe in them, especially Kucinich. I can do nothing else. Everyone else is just bonkers in their support for corporate candidates, war, hypocrisy (really take a look at their records and then what they say).

          I've never officially "dated" anyone because I've never really met someone who is willing to place the whole beyond themselves...maybe I need another Capricorn. My mom is one and I think I'm a lot like her. I think Pisces might be the only sign that can truly understand me for they have high intuitive abilities and are dreamers in themself...just like Capricorn...or so what I've read about Pisces anyhow...I've never actually met anyone with that sign...not to my knowledge at least.

          Capricorn's are serious, serious about themself...sometimes so serious they can lose track of other's point of view. They really have to work extra hard to see everything in other people's viewpoint to relate to them. Capricorn's just in general don't like people...they're stupid....but they see all the potential that people possess and get sad, frustrated, angry when people are not living up to their potential. So in the end we actually care. It's this love-hate thing that probably makes us miserable, especially when people reject what we have to say. We know we're right. We know it. But no one wants to listen. We're the old grandpa, who has sound advice but the younger generation just want to set shit on fire and deal with it later. We are very traditional.

          It might depend on the Capricorn but I think those who have lived enough are definitely spiritual people...we know there is something more out there...astrology for instance...we always want to know more...we always want to know where we fit in...these are the things that matter to us...not the latest gadget or money or a grand family life...we just want to know where we fit in because the rest of the world scares us half to death. If we get those other things in the process of changing the world...we won't toss them away, we do care...but that's not what we're about. Just like MLK jr...we have a dream...we want you to be in that dream and help us achieve our goals because our goals are to help you and humanity.

          We want to laugh. We want to have fun. We want to get to know you but we want you to get to know us first so we know that we're not wasting our time. And I think that's something I've learned...nothing or no one is a waste of time...Capricorn's need to accept people, speak their case and if something sticks...great. But we must not stop trying and judging books by their covers...and people will approach us...we want them too. We just need to smile, ease up a little bit and try and bring people along with the ride while not compromising our beliefs and goals.

          Some Capricorns, myself included will approach you first...if we do...we really want you in some way or another. We can come off quite scary because we really don't know what the fuck we're doing...we don't do it often and thus aren't finely tuned...that's probably where our aloofness comes from. We're clumsy people out of our element...that just makes it that much more important when we do get off the path up the hill because we're willing to look like idiots to get you to come along with us....we're willing to stop time for awhile and get to know you. Sadly, must people don't want to come along...at least I haven't found any.

          I could go on and on...any maybe this is just my experience with my specific natal chart and the specifics in the sky today and through my life...but that's how I view myself and the world around me as a Capricorn Sun. We want balance...we want the best for everyone.
          • I think you just took me there... wherever 'there' is... I think I definitely hear ya man.

            Very cool and straighforward/honest writing John. That was truly excellent!

            I'm a supporter of Kucinich too BTW. A true visionary. I hope America is ready for him.
  • we come off as cold ..at least you wont get the REAL picture of who we are until you sample or offerings..listen to our endless intesting tales ..experiance our wry wit and swim in our bottomless pool of passion.
  • I'm a Libra myself; here's my experience:

    there are different types of capricorns/different varieties of capricorns. there are the playful types and the very serious types; some are really into art (even if they aren't artists themselves) and a lot of them are interested in history, but whatever they're into, they're very devoted to their hobbies and also to their careers. they can be stubborn at times, but then again sometimes this can be a good thing. they tend to be either very casual and comfortable in their dress (as is one of my cappy friends with a sag ascendant) or else they are very formal; it's usually very strongly one way or the other. they are responsible, loyal, dependable, and steady. on the other side, they are easily irritated/offended, sometimes can be too attached to their family/home, and are usually pessimistic (though their realism is refreshing in today's world where everything is sugar coated). they tend to be old fashioned, which can be nice in that they appreciate the past but socially they can be very conservative (I'm a liberal, so to me this is a downside, but if you're a political conservative then it would be a positive) and sometimes intolerant (not always, though, or else they're like my friend I mentioned above and are moderates). they tend to be great with etiquette and are polite, though in an odd twist they also sometimes expect others to be polite and are quite rude themselves (I know several caps like that!). They don't always mean to be rude, though; sometimes they just aren't sure how to act. I've noticed that they get better with age and mellow out when they are older. They also age well usually. They don't change very quickly. They like comfort and familiarity. They're very respectful of their social superiors. The lesser evolved type can be dogmatic, tyrannical, bossy, a know-it-all, insensitive, a slavedriver, overly strict, and uptight; the more evolved type will be sophisticated, witty, intelligent, respectful and polite, playful when it's called for and serious when it's appropriate--a good balance; this type will also have good taste and an air of regality and elegance.

    And, of course, you can't JUST judge from the sun. If you have the rest of their chart(s) available, there are many other factors to be considered, especially the ascendant, moon, venus, and mars
    • Hey there,

      That was a pretty damn good job describing Capricorns. I could definitely recognise my mom in there somewhere. All the good qualities were right on the mark. One quality (in my mom's case that is) which is a bit challenging sometimes to get around (but gets worked out none the less) is persistent stubborness. Boy when she sets her mind a certain way, get ready to get 'convinced' ;-)

      It's always with the 'best' intentions of course, LOL. Absolutely adore Cappies!

      Well stated disclaimer too BTW.
    • I am a capricorn, and its funny to see how much of this previous post rings true with me. I have read a lot of things about capricorns and one thing that is completely not me is that I'm LOUSY with money! Most things I've read say that capricorns are supposed to be very good with it.

      The only other sign I kmnow about in my chart is a scorpio, I can't remember if that's rising or moon though.
    • Yes one have to have the rest of the chart....otherwise we soon will describing every being on this planet...:)

      but as one before me said here
      "how to deal with one." We are very into honestly and loyalty. So, if you exude those characteristics, we'll be quite content. And we're pretty intelligent, so a witty sense of humor goes a very looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong way!

      /// a capricorn in sun and acc.
      (and Im absolutly not the pocking kind by the way....
      and love lots of romance)
      • Well, I'm a Cappy Sun and Cancer Rising. Yep, my own worst enemy. Personally, I don't think I am big mystery. Pretty cut and dry and far as I can see. Then the Cancerian side comes out and spend time "feeling" guilty because I was so "cut and dry". Sheesh!
        So then, going back to Cappy, I over analyze why I needed to feel guilty and finally rationalizing and justifying that its ok to feel guilty at times, its natural, so feel it and get on with it.
        And yes, I spend a lot of time in my own conversations.
        See, it all makes perfect sense to me...so then, why are you lost, as I am scowling looking at others like..."What"? : )
        Even in my own worst, which sometimes can be my best....I have been in a relationship for 18 years. Poor guy, huh?
        Spent half of my life with an Aries Sun and Cancer Rising. With his loud and proud and my quiet and stubborn, we've seem to do pretty well. Our child is Cappy Sun and Libra Rising. Good thing she has the dry sense of humor to handle us. Don't ever give her a big menu in a resturant....takes FOREVER for her to decide on something. Drives us both nuts! So, it all makes sense to me...he's loud, I'm quiet, and she's still deciding............
  • lol id have 2 say that there is no mystery here either, im a cap with libra moon and ascendant,, its so damn confusing
    idk if i really relate 2 a capricorn besides thinking about everything, and being loner like...although i am totally serious about what i believe in..but who isnt?

    i am totally lazy, i admit it....but that might also be bc i think my life is going nowhere
    im not at all interested in money..or getting 2 the top
    i do want my life 2 have meaning,, and i want it 2 have purpose
    i want 2 help the rainforest and animals..that is what i am striving for
    though i am always battling myself,,idk if ill ever make it
    but i have 2 or there is no point 2 my life
    i just want hapiness, and being content with myself...and i kno that dosent mean material possessions
    i want health and happiness
    and purpose
    i need purpose
    2 kno i did something while i was here
    everybody needs that
    im sure
    probably the biggest fight of my life will be getting over the mountain of my shitty self hatred, if i can just do that then i can do anything

    so there are the rantings of a crazy person, inside the mind of a crazy capricorn head..now u kno how we think..or at least one of us
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      Hey Olivia, I totally hear you. I am a Capricorn and half the time I am too busy hating myself to really be doing anything constructive. I have aspirations and dreams, but everything just seems to take forever to happen and like you I sometimes feel I am not getting anywhere. But, I once read somewhere that the worse thing a Cappy can ever do, is to give up - NEVER GIVE UP.

      You are not lazy, you just probably don't see a clear logical path and to get somewhere and that drags you down. In fact I think a lot about my future and my worse fear is that if I don't achieve my goals soon, I will forever curse myself in old age. Us cappies need a plan to prosper, we don't like doing things on impulse (Unlike my other half who is a Leo, but that's another story).

      I sometimes feel I am totally misunderstood by people who take my cool exterior as a sign of arrogance. Yet deep down I am desperate to be liked by others, but they just don't get me - I am so not arrogant, just cautious and perhaps a little shy....It is so frustrating to be misread like this!

      Yes, "getting over the mountain of my shitty self hatred" is going to be your biggest hurdle, because as they say, if you don't like yourself, then no one else will like you either....GOOD LUCK!
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        "and half the time I am too busy hating myself to really be doing anything constructive."
        wow..
        story of my life..

        "I have aspirations and dreams, but everything just seems to take forever to happen and like you I sometimes feel I am not getting anywhere. But, I once read somewhere that the worse thing a Cappy can ever do, is to give up - NEVER GIVE UP. "
        i gave up on too much stuff in life.. my ambition are not as great as they were.. but i wanna do something meaningful..

        " In fact I think a lot about my future and my worse fear is that if I don't achieve my goals soon, I will forever curse myself in old age."
        lol.. its me

        " if you don't like yourself, then no one else will like you either"
        herd it so much..

        say, are you me? :P
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          p.s, im still very young but i worry like a desperate middle aged man its un reasonable lol
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            Hey goaty_scorp, don't even think of being me, I wouldn't wish it on my worse enemy (lol). Learning to love yourself ain't easy, especially when you are so critical of everything you (and others) do. I think us cappies are too perfectionist for our own good. I sometimes wish I was anything but a capricorn, but deep down I know us cappies do have something special, something deep and a secret confidence tells me that I will make it one day...

            Yea I am always kinda worrying about one thing or another. Even small problems become huge mountains which then waste my mental energy, energy I could be using for better things. You have to learn to see the bigger picture and prioritise what you really want from life and try to ignore all the other crap you find so hard to understand or deal with.

            Cappies are born to be adults...and boy we mature quick. But, we are meant to become younger (as the theory goes) with time. I think this is happening to me and I feel I am becoming more relaxed and chilled with time.

            Just focus, set yourself targets if need be - and stick with it....
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              when you donno from where to start cleaning the mess you lose motivation.. but we all know the solution is obvius, its the process i dont like !
              • I think Caps are deeply emotional, sensitive people. Fall in love very easily, but have had often quite emotionally squalid childhoods which makes us create survival shelters for our shattered trust and lost sense of security. That's where the "coldness" comes from. Also, if you want to enchant a cap you must delight and intrigue our imaginations (and then be able to back it up), because few signs have a more well-developed fantasy life than caps, which goes back to the childhood thing again. Saturn is all about learning how to release fear so that you can achieve true personal autonomy and freedom. Remeber goats are wild at heart, and being a capricorn, shapeshifter, means our curiousity can take us literally everywhere and we have the right constitution to get there. Its how we feel the most alive.
  • Wow, lots of responses to this post! Well, as a female Capricorn, I can tell you there is no "mystery" about us - it is Cancer men that are the mystery to me hahaha! Even my son in college is a Cancer, and though we relate at times, there are times we don't. When I was young, I was intensely attracted to Cancers but they didn't even see me - I found out later that they are not the type to take a risk, especially when young, and though my loyalty makes me a safe choice in my eyes, I am very outgoing and I see now that it probably scared them off. As I got older, I realize that even my loyal Cancer friends, male or female, can be a real handful and actually feel "heavy" to me. I would say both signs hide their emotions, but Caps are much more successful at it. Also, Cancer is the sign about nurturing and being dependent on another, where Capricorns are all about self-sufficiency - the "dependence" can look like weakness to Caps, and the Cancers can think Caps are cold and unfeeling when that is not the case at all. However, if you can figure out the balance of these things, i.e. strike a balance between dependence and independence, a Capricorn will be utterly loyal. It might also help if you have some Earth in your chart, and she has some water - and both of you to have a bit of fire and air to lighten it up a bit. My Pisces husband has only had relationships with Capricorn women, all of which were good - we are a good catch! :-) I realize this thread is really old, but wondering if anything ever came out of this for you!
    • My best friend is a cancer (I'm a cappy) and she is the only one that seems to really get me. : )
      • I personally love being a Capricorn because it means I'm better than everyone else! Hey, you Caps know what I'm talking about. But seriously... I've been saying this a bit lately - one of the things that you may notice in a lot of Capricorns is their evolved sense of humor. It's as if our understanding of suffering and the pitfalls of life enhances our humor. David Sedaris is one good example. Pretty much all the Caps I've met have some kind of emotional intelligence, but we're not overrun by our emotions. Pisces also has an interesting sense of humor, but it's more of "I'M SO ORIGINAL!" These are just some patterns I notice. Another thing about Capricorns that I find is we're abundant people. it's either an abundance of energy, talents, skills, factoids, or what have you... but we always have more than few tricks up our sleeves. I have a lot of Libra influence in my chart and I have talents in several areas (visual, sound, emotional, writing - although I don't really nurture my writing much).

        I've had nothing but crappy experiences with the few Cancer guys I've bothered with. I'm a Libra Ascendant and my Venus is in Sag... (I'm also gay if that matters) - The Cancer guys move too slow for me and they're too guarded. They expect you to entertain them while they sit back, soaking up your admiration. Hard to get, yadda yadda yadda. I don't do hard to get - I want to establish that I'm creating something, and this sort of freaks them out. I'm just too comfortable, is the problem. I've also noticed a real flakey side to them... avoidance, cancellations... blah! Give me someone stable. Never again! Friends are one thing but I don't think I can bother with a Cancer sun date again. Suns may not tell you everything but they are the core. I think with a Cancer person... the Sun is HIGHLY important. They're a deeply emotional sign, after all.

        'm the total silly free-spirit Cap who's bad with money. If you've ever heard of such a thing! I read in a book that December 26 people aren't usually great with money. I can feel some changes already, I think it may be Pluto... I'm becoming a bit more serious about everything. Are any other Caps feeling Pluto yet? Or feeling what they think is Pluto? I'm getting a real obsessive energy.

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          True, that with the sense of humor, Jose.

          Jim Carrey is a Cap with Scorp Rising and Gemini Moon. And he's such a cool guy!

          Resent the comment about Pisces, though. Pisces are amazingly funny in the most original ways, but they need a bit of air influences in their charts to help them open up, otherwise they just get lost in their own rapid stream of thought and osmotic observations, and keep the humor to themselves.

          But Fish are known to be the most cynical and caustic of all..especially bittered ones. I've met a few of those, and they'd kill u with their psychological games.
          • My comment about Pisces wasn't a slam or anything - their humor is very original. It's just that some of them can't see beyond their own sense of humor, like you mentioned. And nothing could be funnier or more profound than what THEY say, etc. Nina Hagen is one of my muses - she's a Pisces with Virgo rising and an Aquarius moon. She certainly knows how to express her unique brand of humor. As far as Pisces people go she's one of the most out-there I've ever seen.

            youtube.com/watch
          • I have a scorpio moon...not sure about my rising....what does that mean?

            .... and I'm SUPER bad with money....I find that so strange that everything I read about caps, say they are good with money.
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          All in all, I think Caps can command respect like no other sign. I've known some Caps that actually managed to make the best of their traits and once they leave their insecurities behind, u can definitely spot one by the "Boss" look on his/her faces.

          They're the types that even fire signs bow too..like circus tigers to the skinny, 5'2'' feet tall trainer with a whip in her hand.
  • my son, roommate, and bestfriend's parents (my bestfriend is a sagittarius like me) are both capricorns. Most of my bosses are capricorns too, it seems the people in my life that offer me opportunities for stability and the folks i live with are usually capricorns. I believe a sagitarius like myself needs a solid earth sign because earth feeds fire. i also believe i am to learn from and about them to teach and understand my son.
    • I've noticed there haven't been too many examples of couplings with Leos on here. My hubby is a Leo, my son and one of my daughters are leo, my mom in law also,,,,all under one roof! Drives me crazy sometimes!!

      They're all so dammned picky! I'm a very creative and fly by the seat of pants kind of girl, and everything has to be just so with them.

      One thing I will say in his favor is that he keeps me grounded, when I'm off following another one of my ideas, he reminds me to take it easy and think things through. Mind you sometimes(well lots of times) this feels like he doesn't support or encourage my creativity...but he does. He made sure that the house we bought had extra space for a studio for me. ; )
  • First of all just relax. We are not that untouchable. Just very reserved. Underneath that thick layer of toughness we are very soft. I am a female cappy. My ascendent is sagittarius with a gemini moon. When I love, I love with my whole heart. But, I must first see that I can trust you. My life has been a hard road, an up the hill climb with being hurt along the way, as well as fellow cappy's, i'm sure. Just give it time (especially if your other luminaries are in check). You two are going in two seperate direction in this life but anything is doable. Before you get your heart involved I strongly suggest finding out who you are and making sure she is in alignment to your signs. Take care. Luck to you Laura
  • I am currently in a difficult breakup scenario with a Capricorn. I am an aries woman and he is a capricorn. Cap tends to bring down my up beat spirit, criticizing me for my enthusiasm and lack of follow-through on my multitude of ideas and dreams which I express openly. As a result, I tend to find him boring at times. He can be really pocky...always expecting all of my ideas to become manifest instead of excepting me as a dreamer and initiator, but not always someone who follows through.
    He now claims that he doesn't trust me and this hurts me immensely.
    We have different styles in communication: I am very spontaneous and quick to make a move...sometimes taking shortcuts. He is very calculating and slow to move yet when he does he is very thorough. A dependable mate..always good to his word. But I am finding that because he is on a spiritual path to success at the moment and not a financial one, that I am loosing interest because I really thought that he could be a provider for the family that I want to have and I compromised a lot of myself to be in this relationship. But I am not getting what I wanted from him.
    • Dear Mina, You need to follow your instincts. Do not keep on with this relationship if you have to keep questioning it. Sure you were attracted to him. But it's only an attraction not anything else. You got to the first base so to speak, but there are three other bases. Before you end up not making it two second base, no matter how hard you try...stop, listen to your self talk and believe in it and in yourself..I trust you will make the right choice at the right time in your life. Learn more about yourself and the attributes that you want in a man ...then look at yourself...because the only way to get that man that you want you must contain in you the very things you are looking for. Work on yourself. Like attracts like. Always remember that! You are # 1 in your life, not # 2!!! Good luck to you sweetie!! Laura
      • i think caps are controlling. sun or asc especially. do you guys feel they always want to wear the pants in a relationship? because i dated this scoprio sun cap asc friend always acted as if he wanted to be the leader. so annoying. its like i had to obey him whatever. but he is GORGEOUS!
        • Caps. do have a sense of superiority about themselves, we do like to be the boss and have things our way. But all in all we are pretty flexible, at least I am. Scorpio men...oh, so...powerful, that is their nature. Gorgeous, that too. They like to probe deep into people especially a prospective mate. But they are intensely loving people. Yes, to answer your question they want to control. They do make excellent friendships with caps. but you have to be flexible.
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            A woman who *LOL* suffered from CAPRICORN ascending, happily discovered she is a Pisces ascendant, thus as concern the real sky, she is not cold and all. The SUN is in Sagittarius for the New Years holidays, a bit complicated since it leaves Libra on Nov 24th for a week in Scorpius, then it has a long journey in Ophiuchus and only after New Year it is in Capricornus. You can check this with any program by tracking the stars that the SUN conjuncts, thanks. lulu.com/astrology
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              My last 2 boyfriends were capricorns... im a virgo... and in the end i wanted to shoot myself. I now am best friends with the first one and have a restraining order onthe second... from my experience... virgos and caps are better off as friends... nothing more!
          • I serially date men with capricorn rising and am currently wondering if it is partly because of their taking the lead (controlling)
            It's funny because I like having someone who i feel can equal me in power and that is a way to show it.
            By being the man and taking the lead and all that, I find that when I let them I not only like it, but they allow me to be as intelligent as I am without getting threatened (with one exception) unlike many other signs oh and they seem to be fairly slow to commit or from my point of view attempt to keep me. I like that too. Huh, that's nice to think about I have been trying to understand why so many capricorn ascendants for a long time this really feels like part of it........
            It might just be the ones I attract, but I definitely get more deeply involved with cap rising folks as lovers than any other position in the chart
            and my daughter is that too.
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              Capricornus is NOT rising at east at all at this epoch. The same goes for Libra, Aries and Scorpius. Thus their ascendant might be Serpens, Aquila or Aquarius, depending whether the program makes 30 or 60 degrees of standard error. You never dated a Capricornus:)
  • Oh boy.
    Cancer and Capricorn. We both want the same things, but we go opposite directions to get what we want. It's either hit or miss, between the Cancer and the Capricorn. If it's not there, it's not there.

    Some Capricorn insight: We like to be sure. We're the goats -- we have to have some seriously secure footing before we climb further. I'll climb and climb, all day long, but I have to know that others are on the same path before I climb with someone else. We seem much more complex than we are, but that really boils it down. Capricorns (and I'm speaking for my fellow Caps here) absolutely abhor humiliation or rejection. But, on the other hand, when we do something, we DO SOMETHING. If you're looking for someone to be there 100%, look no further than Capricorn. When I take on something, I want to get it right and be sure about it.
    Of course, this means that our weaknesses include tendencies toward slowness and a lack of confidence, but you can rest assured that when a Capricorn sets their mind to do something, they are going to do it beyond what you'd ever expect. Capricorns also kind of age backwards, in a way. In due time, they tend to loosen up and become more open and spontaneous. They do their "hard times" in their younger years, and, later, become the Gods and Goddesses that they're meant to become.
    Even now, at age 26, I find myself more and more confident every day. And I haven't even hit my Saturn Return, which I know will be bountiful and beneficial to me.

    Capricorns are awesome people. Look at our roster: Denzel Washington, Marlene Dietrich, Janis Joplin, J.D. Salinger, Elvis Presley, Joan Baez, Martin Luther King Jr., etc. We've just got to grow into it.

    Give us Capricorns some time and we'll rock your world.
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    Capricornus is slightly unknown at this epoch because it does not rise at due east. Thus it is sort of obscured. People with Pisces rising think they have Capricornus ascendant, that is two signs of error and not a mystery at all. To determine the position of the Sun you need ephemeris. Thus, the Sun is in Libra on Nov 23rd. Hope this helps determining the Sun sign. You will find Sun NASA ephemeris on tribe net, astrology tribes.
  • *raises her hand shyly* Yup I am in love with a Capricorn it's been a long haul with the two of us. I admire his honesty, his quick dry quirky sense of humor, his seriousness, his loyality,his dorkiness, and dedication. He reminds me of a clam sometimes, very closed off to the outer world in order to protect his inner(softer) feelings which I see as the (pearl) within the clam. Even though he is very aloof, reserved, shy, quiet, unpassionate, cold, tight lipped, and even bit cynical in public..he has this inner quality and intensity that dwells deep within him. He is very passionate, caring, understanding, loving, funny, sweet, gentle and he loves music and art. It was a slow start to begin with he was unsure of his feelings for me because he was afraid of loving me, he said he never felt this way for anyone..and he thought no one would ever love him in such way. He believes deep down he is no good because...he is a high school drop out and he does dabble in pot, he has this heart condition so he feels shelter, lol, he doesn't know how to drive, he is estranged from his parents..especially his mother, he kinda as abandonment issues, he was a racist when I first met him meaning my mixed heritage was a red flag at first but he grew out of it because of me and his imaginary impotancey. He also finds himself unnattractive...which shocks me because he is highly attractive and girls are always after him.

    I have to reassure him that I love him..I truely do love him because he just clicks to me regardless of the negative aspects he may spew at me..the positive ones shine through more. I have to loosen him up and sometimes he has to help me with being grounded in the emotional state and reassures me of my priorities..(my pisces moon makes me too dreamy at times..oh and that Neptune in the first house.probably) and at times I get frustrated with his coldness that appears out of hurt feelings..he retreats within himself and becomes moody when he's hurt and he only comes out when he is done healing himself because he doesn't like for me to witness his "moody" side and then he becomes my lovable dorky warm Capricorn.
    • I am your boyfriend, haha..
      Your description of your Cap is really, really sweet and so true for Capricorns generally, too! You seem to understand him very well, even the motives for his behaviour, congratulations :o) I am a Cap female and I feel that what we like the least is explain the motives of our moodines and dark states...... because why? It's a weakness revealed and we don't like that, do we! So from my point of view there is really no other way for the partner to just try to understand this tendency and leave the Cappy be for a while.
      I also very much identify with the not wanting other people to witness my shitty moods. I feel guilty, don't want them to pick up on my negative energy and maybe take it on themselves. That might be why your Cap doesn't want you to be ther when he's feeling low, pissed off or whatever negative.
      Well, you're a smart woman and you seem to have worked it out well, but all the same - good luck with your goat, i think it is worth it!
      • Well said, Kamila. Caps aren't too into taking risks, most of the time, and that includes taking the risk of letting someone care about them. I find myself sometimes getting into this head space where I stop expressing myself out of a fear of rejection/humiliation. But when I have someone around who I'm absolutely sure isn't going to judge me, it opens up this part that I didn't even really know was there. It can take a long time.. the keyword is patience. Capricorns may show you affections and open up slowly, but it's always in the back of their mind that something could go wrong.
        Gee, after re-reading that, I realize that it must be sometimes annoying to date a Cap. Thanks for putting up with us.