What can you tell me about Cancer man?? Because I've been "talking" to one for 5 months now and we txt msg each other every day and we see each other once a week....this week I pissed him off because I told him that I got the impression that him and his female best friend were having a fling and I mentioned it to him to clarify the air but he took it as the most insulting thing ever and got into a fight. This was two days ago so yesterday I called him to apoligize and explain to him why and who told me that and he said ok we're cool now...the rest of the convo went fine and we hung up. However I still haven't heard from him which is very strange because I normaly would have heard from him by now several times by now.....but nothing and i'm really sad....I have never felt like this about a man before and I still have no idea where we stand ( i know if I want to know I should ask....but I can't) I was hoping by mentioning that topic about him and his female friend that it would open the subject cause I told him if you are involved with her we should't be talking the way we do to each other. But he isn't he said and that they were just friends but never really said anything on what we are..... And will he ever be the same with me again????? I miss him already :(

I'm not one to fall for someon easily and he is special ...the last thing I want to do is push him away but at the same time i'm having such a hard time reading him ...I have no idea what he wants...
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  • DEE
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    call him and act like nothing has happened. we forgive, but we feel very awkward afterwards and usually if the person we were upset with calls and treats us the same then we'll be the same.
    • I called and I gave him an explanation and I apoligized ....the rest of our convo went fine and but he was talking to me like nothing has happened (which is good) however I haven't heard from him and that's really really unusual....at this point I still don't know what he wants from me...he's always so vague but he thinks he's made himself clear to me about how he feels but I don' t think he has...so im either very clueless or ignorant...in which he said I ignore what he says and I asked what is it that I ignored and he didn't reply back....

      Here's the story when we first met it was very random at restaurent ..he was serving me ...and then next thing u know we had few mutual friends so we made sure to go out together few things and we did (this was 5 months ago) and those night we went back hom togehter fulled around but I never slept with him....after we went on few date and still i didn't give in....he asked me why and I told him cause I was interested and I wanted to get to know him ....and i was scared that he was gonna get mad but he didn't he actually said very good answer babe........since then we talk every day ....but also since then never did he try to kiss me or even hold my hand again ....so I dont know if :
      1) I pushed him away and now he just wants to be friends
      2) he's going slow to get to know me too
      3) or he lost interest and this is his way of saying i just want to be friends.....

      Up until the fight two days ago I heard from him everyday .....

      Him doing what I mentioned above...what does that mean.....cause I have such a hard time reading him or understanding what he wants and he doesn't communicate clearly enough for me to know....

      Thank you this is realllly appreciated!!!!
      • DEE
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        yes, you called and apologized (i don't really agree with you having to apologize, but that's in the past now), so now call him again and tell him you miss him or something and act like nothing has changed. we melt for stuff like that.

        also, if you want to fool around or anything, you may have to make the first move. he may feel a little insecure as to when you'd want to get physical again and we're notorious for widdling our thumbs about these things and never making that move--especially since you have 'rejected' him. i'm willing to bet anything that he hasn't lost interest, but i think he may just feel unsure of what to do and where you guys stand right now.

        but be careful that he's also manipulating you to make himself feel better.
        • DEES's advice is right on. I was thinking the same thing he wrote except for the manipulating part. He's not manipulating he wants to be your boyfriend.
          • Hi ....I actually did end up texting him on friday saying " I miss hearing from you...how's your day babe" and normally he would reply back to me right away but this time it took him 8 hours.....he was driving home which is a good 8 hours drive and ALWAYS talks to me on the road normally but anyhow ....few hrs later he msged me back saying " Hey, nice to hear from you baby" then I asked him if he was close to getting home and he didn't reply back....and haven't spoken to him since....he's out of town for the holidays to go see his family and I don't even know when he's coming back cause I never got to ask him before he left.....

            I'm thinking to msg him tomorrow to wish hima merry xmas....

            Whereas him wanting to be my boyfriend ....I highly doubt it ....from what I know about him because of our mutual friends....he has a hard time getting into a relationship with girls....he's been single for 6 years because his last girlfriend cheated on him with his entire team when he use to play in the NHL and since then he never once commited to a girl and his friends told me he's had many great oppurtunities with amazing girls......so I highly doubt he wants a relationship ....I really don't know what he could possibly want ...cause he talk to me in a way that "Friends" wouldn't talk to each other ....and it was every day 20 times a day up until the fight ....but yet he doesn't try anything anymore on me ...so i really get mixed signals....and I do not have it in me to put the moves on him no matter how much I want to ...I'm very conservative in that sense espacially since he isn't my boyfriend and I don't know what he wants....If I knew what he wanted it would be so much simpler....

            Sometimes I think maybe he is manipulating me too ...that' s why i'm asking for this advice because I really don't know how to interprate his msgs.....

            Thanks for the advice you two ...I appreciate it ....but what now ?!? Should I just wait for him to msg me or contact me at this point?
            • DEE
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              well, instead of playing the msg game, just call him and see how it goes. maybe he wants to be chased a little? cancers love that. call and make some plans to see each other or something when he gets back. if that doesn't work i'd probably back off a bit... and if he's interested, he'll eventually come roaring back, clingy as ever if he thinks you're not paying attention to him.

              and generally, with scorpios and cancers... it's really difficult, in my opinion, to be "casual" in terms of friendship or love. there's too much of a connection.
              • Thanks Dee

                Although I know he HATES talking on the phone ...he has an issue with that ...even his own family and buddies have to txt him haha i'll txt him for now considering it's long distance...i'll touch base with him and see how that goes ...and I will leave it up to him to make plans with me when he gets back or even contact me ....hopefully he will miss talking to him and will come around.....

                I can certainly see what you mean by it's difficult for a scorpio and cancer to just remain "friends" ..... but whereas to put the first move if (hopefully) we see each other again ...I don't know if I have it in me to do so ...I know as an adult I shouldn't have that as a problem but I do .... however I think i've been hinting it loud and clear to him though lol haha

                Anyways thanks again Dee

                Hope you are enjoying your holidays... :)
  • Hey Pamela

    I know that they say that "Scorps and Cancers are a match made in Heaven" but they fail to mention the time it takes to get there.

    I am a 28 year old who has been involved with a Cancer man off an on for about 10 years. It seems as if we could never get on the same page. If I was on then he was off, if I was off then he was on. It was about alot of mind games. I had to act like like i wasnt interested for him to be interested and once i knew he was, i lost interest...it is all crazy...I do HATE mind games but us as Scorpios deep down love the intensity of the drama so it is not surprising that we stick around for the mind games. It is something i hate to do but end up gewtting sucked into. I am too prideful to give up and i get stuck on the "Whys".

    Me and this man met when i was 18... played so many games for about a year. He had trouble committing and give me the impression SEVERAL times that he was cheating. Found a girl in his bed actually one mornign when i went over there. Got engaged after a year, i broke his heart and called it off. I moved on, he moved on. I got a divorce, he got a divorce and now here we are 10 years later trying it again.

    sounds crazy...i know BUT here is the good news. My cancer man and i have always gotten along soooooo well. Dont think we have ever gotten into a fight. He is very understanding of my moods i can get in and tolerates my jealousy because it makes him feel better. Cancers have HUGE hearts. If someone needs help, regardless of gender and what it appears to be...they help. The woman i found in his bed... her husband beat ther the night before. He slept on the couch. He is a cop and gets calls on his cell frequently...it irritates the shit outta me but it is always about wrk.

    When we go out, he is the first one to introduce me as his girlfriend. However, it took forever to get to that point. Cancers need to know that through thick and thin, through the off times, you will be there. Your guy understands your personality more than you think. He is just going off you right now and throwing a little of the mind games in with it. Dont change or alter who you are because thats what he is crazy about. Us Scorpio woman have a way that is mysterious and seductive and is like a drug. Cancer me, or any man, dont know what it is they cant resist about us but it is something. Be his friend when he is just wanting a friend and when he is wanting more then be that AS LONG as your gut is telling you he is being scandelous then go with it. TRUST ME....IF HE IS DOING SOME SHADY BUSINESS...YOU WILL KNOW. Your instinct is off the charts.

    The best thing about Cancers is they give you space to have a life outside of them because they know you are coming home to them. Use that to your advantage. I hoped this has helped and i know it may be confusing because i have still yet to understand my realtionship in its fullest with my cancer man but we have made it through 2 marriages, 2 divorces and three kids. I have stayed in contact with him throughout the past 10 years, not inappropriatly but as friends. Guess it is an attraction that last forever.
    • Hi Chasity

      You're story is very interesting, you had my full attention the entire time, 10 years is a long time and the two of you just found out that it's your time now together, i'm happy to hear that things are going well now and you're both happy.

      I agree with you about how cancer man love to help ppl, anyone and everyone, I really do appreciate the time you took to write to me and my situation has taken quite the turn lately.

      If you read everything that I said before with the other members I was saying that we don't see each other often and that we are not sleeping together and then we had that fight. Well we decided to see each other new years eve and since it had been two weeks since the last time we saw each other.....and when we saw each other we just kissed and couldn't keep our hands off of each other, we were happy to see each other and then we did finally sleep together that night. However someone ones said to me " you know you're just a lay or a fuck to a guy when you don't wake up next to him in the morning" and that statement felt so real that day because after we had slept together it was now 6am in the morning ...he went to the washroom and I wasn't going to just make my way to his bed to go to sleep so I started getting dressed waiting for him to say what are you doing....but he said nothing...he didnt even ask me why I was leaving or that I should stay..... so I left.... and it felt like ti was a one night stand ........I hated that feeling .....I had never had a one night stands ive always been a long relationships or partners that I knew where we stand.......now im starting to think that maybe that's all he wanted and that's he wants is just a friend with benefit.

      That really made me feel small and I don't know how to mention it to him ...I like him and I don' t want to push him away or make the wrong move or say the wrong thing.

      What do you think?

      Thanks again for your help it's appreciated....happy new year :)
      • Sorry Chica

        I have been terribly sick and have been red ridden :( BUT I am better now!!! :)

        As far as the whole situationyou were speaking of. This is my take on it. Please don not get offended. We as scorpian women have a way in being needy but will NEVER admit to it. Like, we fish for compliments or we want the other person to profess the undying love for us. When i say being "needy" it is not the needy that we feel like we have to have some one. It is the need to know we are incontrol of what is going on. It is either, you want it or you dont and we want to know. There is no, I am confused or maybes.

        When you got up to get dressed, you were wanting him to say "stay" or "dont go". If were filling him out without being forth coming with him. Just talk to him, ask him questions because Cancer men are kinda dense in thier thinking. I dont mean that as they are flighty BUT they dont analyze and over analyze like us scorpian women do. To them, it is what it is.
        For him, if he didnt care for you, then he wouldnt have done that with you. Cancer men, love to feel needy and do not like a woman who is independant. They love to take care of the ones they are with and once they feel like they are not needed then they pride, ego, and feelings do get hurt. He probably did feel rejected to a degree but thought in your mind, this is what she wants so okay. They take surface information and go with it, to where we analyze and re analyze and do it again and it almost drives us crazy....LOL.

        As, i had said before me and my Cancer man have never argued. I have done him soooo wrong in our past but we still never argued. However, they only heated argument we have gotten into was over me being so independant and my parents influence over my decisions. He wanted me to know that it bothers him when i dont let him take care of me and he wanted me to know that this was "our" relationship and no one elses. It bothers then if they feel like we do not trust them. That is the ultimate slap in the face. I learned that the hard way. I told my Cancer man that and he was truly hurt. Cancer men have an innate sense of loyalty once you earn thier trust and respect. Like i said, it is what it is with them.

        In his mind, he probably thought..."okay, i wouldnt had sex with her if i didnt want to be with her". That is loyalty to him, He doesnt feel the need to dissect it and analyze it likw we want them to. Your Cancer man needs to know, with your help, that you are a very complex person. You need to lay it all out there in the most gentle, non defensive way possible. Explain to him how you feel when he does certain things . Dont make him feel like you are attacking him though because he wont understand. Once you do this, i assure you he will have had no clue about what was goin on in your head. Heck, half the time we dont know....you know tahts true ...lol

        The night I initially post this was the first time I had spoken to mine in months. We spoke on the phone for 20 minutes and his dad was in the hospital. He wanted to talk about how much he missed me and how he tried texting me on my birthday and how he still loves me. Then we went to texting and he still kept saying how he knows we are meant to be with each other and are soul mates and regardless of what i think or believe he will have me one day. It made me feel good to know he still felt that way because i broke up with him last. (I cant stand emotional, indecisive people) He said he loved me and blah blah blah..

        Since then i have barely heard from him...lol. If i text, he will text back but is very short. This seems bad BUT i have come to understand him. I know that this is him. Cancers need thier space and I give it to him. I dont question him and jump his case or psychanalyze him BUT it is because out of 10 years i have come to understand him.

        Cancer men mean what they say, and say what they mean. At times it still aint good enough for us scorpios but thats when we have retrain our minds and take on the concept of it is what it is.. It is hard but i know if he is doing something he is not suppose to be then my gut ALWAYS tells me otherwise...ALWAYS...

        If he is saying he loves you or cares for you and wants to be with you then he means it... Just hold on to that when you have doubts. It never hurts to initiate a conversation with them but dont be too clingy. I have found with us it did take alot of time to really establish the love that we have but once we did it is something that is uniques and everlasting. Even if we never make it as a couple we will always be in touch and vert very close.

        He has sought me out 3 times in the last 10 years. I mean, like he has showed up at me doorstep after not talking for years!!! He is a cop so he has acces to that info in where to find me...lol. He has always called me when he had girl problems and when he found out he was having a baby and getting married and going through a divorce. There is a solid love there and respect. But it all came about in time and what seemed to be alot of games on both our parts and making the effort to understand each other.

        When you sense he is kina put off about something you have said or done then be the first to explain yourself because he will take it personally and he is not the type pressure you on why you offended him...to him, you got it, IT IS WHAT IT IS....

        Essentially, I feel in my core astrology doesnt determine aho you should end up with but it is pretty concise in personality traits so take it into consideration but dont base everything on it

        hope this helped :)
    • DEE
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      interesting story chasity....

      y'know what

      honestly

      i knew a scorp chick for a loooong time... nearly as long as you and your cancer guy... and i always felt a little in love with her. it never, ever worked out. there were so many stupid games, or mixed signals, or whatever.... and i'm such an oddball when it comes to this kind of stuff that i've just about given up hope on even maintaining any kind of friendship with her. so instead of seeming bleak or frustrating, your story is kind of inspiring and similar to where i wish my relationship with her had gone haha
      • LOL.... Dude you just feel into a situation with a chic that will have alot of ups and downs. A very very complex person...lol (bless you heart) ha

        Going off how i am, i can tell you that when you are getting mixed signals it is because she is going off what she getting from you. If she is feeling like your acting shady, she will multiply that. She will distance herslef from you but will quickly let all that go when she sees you are making an effort to pursue her. We all scorp women have some hellacious trust issues so if she feels like she is trustin you more then she is getting from you she may even create a problem, or drama, to see how you will react to it.

        We love for guys to be open with us but to also in a gentle manner to set us straight. We want to be positive that someone is willing to fight for hte relationship as we are. One thing i know for a fact, she will be loyal to you if she feels like you are always being honest with her. If you know she is over analyzing things, just be like "look, i care for you and you should know me well enough by now to know i will tell you whats on my mind or if something is up but i feel like you are reading too much into this.

        A bonified way into a scorps heart, is to be open with them. I ask alot of question, i mean alot. It is how i feel people out. I ask about thier past, what they want, why their relationships have ended, what they took away from them, i mean EVERYTHING. If someone can be honest then it gives me a sense of intimacy with that person. We are not people who take things lightly but if you ask me about htings and i am vague about it, then dont pressure it. Just really try to make an effort to understand her and if she is acting distant, ask why!!! TRUST ME, SHE WANTS YOU TO.

        When my cancer man told me the things that bothered him about me, it made me feel better. It showed me he cared enough, that something was bothering him about me. Because, we know we aint perfect and if you say we are then we know you are bullshittin and havent thought about it enough to care about anything.

        Thats how we think, we are complex and think way toooooo much. I admit i over analyze evrything....hence the word ANAL is the root of that word....lol. I am my worst enemy sometimes but it is because i am a very passionate person. Thats the good thing about us. We fight to the end and even after that for the things that are important. Just be very open with her and you will see a difference
        • DEE
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          thanks for the words! however, we broke off contact months and months ago and i'm pretty sure she's dating a pisces now. oh well, life goes on. it just kind of sucked to think that we pretty much lost our friendship, but it was probably for the best.

          i honestly don't know how i'm shady, but my friends tell me i am. maybe it's my sag rising that makes me so aloof?? who knows. i feel like when we first met, we were very close, and it was very close to being more than friendship, but it never worked out. she went to a diff school and was telling me how she was "in love" (or lust, i suppose) with someone there, or how she would make out with other guys, stuff like that. i thought that she knew how i felt--cancer men can't hide it very well, esp from scorps i assume--and this was her way of keeping me distant. so i started dating someone else, then she did, and it was never close like it used to be after that... even years later when i tried to see her again. at first i got really good signals, i think.. then all of a sudden she completely got distant again. and this lasted for months and eventually it just kind of collapsed.

          ah well, i've met another woman--incidentally a scorp! sheesh--whom i'm interested in, so we'll see if i've learned from my mistakes...
          • Thanks you all for you responses....I appreciate the fact that i'm getting fead back from both you chasity and the gentlemen ...I can get both perspective...in which it's very much needed....well this is the most recent update...

            After we had sex that night we were still on the couch just talking and he through out a comment saying " so I guess now i'll see you in March or April" and I was not impressed with that comment right after sex. It's because we don't see each other often at all and I really do always invite him every time im doing something to come join me but the biggest problem is I work day and he works nights. And on his two days off he never seem to make time for me. So when he said that comment I asked him why are you saying it like it's my fault and his response was " i've asked you to come over several times and you said no". But seriously that only happened once and I had a good reason on why I didn't want to go.

            After that comment it's now 6am in the morning and he kept on saying how tired he was and I was just as exhausted and I wanted to sleep too and I had just finished saying to him how comfortable I am and how I was not in the mood to get up and drive and he didn't say anything .....15 or 20 mins later we were still on that couch ....so I took it as if he was waiting for me to leave cause he never said honey let's make our way to the bed or let's go sleep. So when he got up to go to the washroom I wasn't going to make myself comfortable and go to his room haha so I slowly started getting dressed and when he got back he didn't say why are you getting dressed or anything. I felt like he wanted me to leave. So I did .

            That day he was suppose to leave town for couple of days, however it was pretty stormy so I figured he didn't leave therefore I txted him asking him if he was still in town and he said yes i'm not leaving anymore cause of the weather, so then I asked him if he was busy he answered no. Then I suggested if he wanted to go watch a movie but he replied back saying "i'd love to but It's my game night with my co-workers" on his night off. Hence whne i accused him of something going on with his best friend well that girl is also his co worker and that's who he was spending game night with her and other people which is fine but I mean he has all his shifts with these people espacially that girl and on his nights off he's also spending it with them. So that's why I feel like he isn't putting an effort.

            The weekend past and I didn't hear from him for two day (which is unusual) and finally he messged me saying "how was your weekend busy lady" it's cause I was suppose to work a double on friday and saturday....but he knows I would answer him even though I was at work. But I replied back saying actually babe I had the night off friday and got off work early saturday night, in which it's true. And then he replied back saying he had the entire weekend off too, and he went bowling saturday night and watched a movie sunday night. He knows I have off sundays always. So i got very frustrated that he finally had this time off and never contacted me till after and he never mentioned with you and I'm not the type of person to ask.

            So yesterday considering he wasn't working yet again I thought he would want to do something so i msged him and he was talking about how much he loves watching movies and I said to him " well if you love movies that much we should plan and go see one" as usual he said "yeah i woudl love to that sounds great babe". I got upset with that answer cause why didn't he say let's go now since we were both off for the evening so I responded saying " haha I knew u were going to say that, honestly you say we don't see each other enough and I agree but i'm trying, I feel like a broken record at this point so i'm done asking you, when and if you want to do something with me again let me know" and all he said was "haha ok babe"

            Haven't heard from him since that comment and that was yesterday, Like I said we only both have off for sure on monday and tuesday night and I didn't even hear from him today or tonight ....weird....normally I hear from him everyday.

            So I don't think he's interested or maybe all he wants is a friend with benefit. That's insulting to me but then again he doesn't know anything about me since we don't spend time together so I don't even see how he could possibly have feelings for me.
            • Dee this is for you....

              I do think that if she got distant again it' s because she had a good reason, I really do beleive that I normally have a good reason behind all my actions or my assumtions. So who knows why now cause it's too late to ask but Chasity is right we LOVE when a man is DIRECT...and you know what take it from me ...the cancer man i'm talking abotu is the MOST VAGUE PERSON I have ever met in my life, he thinks/says he is direct with me and I ignore what he says all the time. All this time I thoguht he was playing with my head and it was a game with him but after hearing you say this maybe he really does beleive that he is being clear to me when I obviously don't think so. Well goodluck with your new scorpio and the only advice I Can give you is ALWAYS BE HONEST AND DIRECT but choose the right way to say things,because sometimes it's not what you are saying that can hurt us it's how you say it. Goodluck and if you have any fead back in what I wrote earlier with my situations let me know. Thanks ! :)
              • Hi Pamela, Im a Virgo Sun, but your situation sounds a lot like a Cancer I dated. First of all, can you give us more information about his chart? Do you know the year he was born? My had a Sun opposition to Neptune which made him extremely vague and a Pisces Moon which made him too darn non-confrontational and slippery.

                Your words really struck me : "the cancer man i'm talking abotu is the MOST VAGUE PERSON I have ever met in my life, he thinks/says he is direct with me and I ignore what he says all the time. All this time I thoguht he was playing with my head and it was a game with him but after hearing you say this maybe he really does beleive that he is being clear to me when I obviously don't think so"

                My Cancer man was also vague. I would beat out the way he felt about me with questions. This was my first big mistake. I think he felt pressured. When he felt pressured, he would cower. If he was forced to answer a question under the spotlight, he would resent me later for it. This whole confrontational technique never worked. if there was a problem in our relationship, he dealt with it by not calling me.

                Please DO NOT do what Paul suggested... "I think you should just not text him, and see if he texts you, and how long it takes to happen...." Don't play these games with a Cancer! They are usually a lot better at holding out on these things than Scorpios are. They already have masochistic tendencies and I think they hate crawling back to their lovers. They value a sense of protection, and unconditional support, and emotional attention which Scorpios are superb at.

                They are not confrontational people and they usually just like "crawling into a hole" as my Cancer would often put it (and I likened it to a Crab). The fact that your Cancer is not equally returning your affections is a mixed bag of problems - One this is Cancerian selfishness. Every sign has its own selfish traits and Cancer certain has issues with being in a constant flux of strong moods and being unable to see the emotional needs of others.

                When I look back, I see the moments I best related to Cancer was NOT when I directly asked the Cancer how he felt. He didn't want to think about it. It was when I told him how I felt and slowly I felt he began to amazingly relate and desire to comfort me.

                Also whatever you do, don't give your Cancer an ultimatum to change. This is what I did, and it was a huge disaster - this just builds up huge resentment rather than ambition to take action...

                Instead, give him a LOT of space. Basically, move on with your life. He WILL come around. When he comes around, don't be needy with him, and don't demand anything from him. Be there for him. If he is not kind to you, wants to play games (which is huge temptation for a Scorpio - esp to play sly message games, manipulating words, as I hear from your story ) - don't give in. Just tell him how you feel and what your needs are. If he wants to be with you, he should meet them. If not, tell him this is over the top for you emotionally, and explain the problem to him in terms of your emotions. He will understand. If he likes you, he will understand that he needs to change for you, and he will happily do so, as long as you do not demand it from him. Just tell him that you can't be in relations with him due to your feelings. You are very hurt as it is.

                Not being in a relationship which someone who is hurting you is only fair to yourself and if he doesn't share a value in that, maybe he's not the right guy for you. g'luck!
                • Jill I agree looking at the whole chart is a good idea. I’m a Cancer male and have a lot of Cancer guy friends. 2 of my friends where born 8 days after me and one born 20 days after me in the same year. We are alike in a lot of ways but we do things a lot differently. The 2 that are born on the same day are twins there a lot alike but still very different.

                  As for me I have Cancer Sun Aquarian Moon and Capricorn Rising. When it came to me and my Scorpio love things are a lot different. For instance I have always tried to be as open, honest and direct with her as possible. I knew how special she was right away. After we introduced ourselves I grabbed her pulled her to me and told her she was my girlfriend. Before I even got her phone number I said she could come live with me and that I would take care of her. She’s the only one I have ever said anything like that too and wanted to say anything like that to.

                  Also when it came down to me expressing my true feelings for her I did. We were apart at the time but still in touch. My feelings for her where so strong, that I needed to express them to her. She is the one I have these powerful feelings for she is the one I am in love with so she deserved to know. Also it was a time where we did not know where each other stood at this point. It was felt by both of us but not expressed. So I needed her to know. So she did not have to question it or worry about. I gave her all the information I felt she needed and will give any information she ever needs about me. The reason I do this is that I’m in love with her. I need to be able to communicate to her openly so that are relationship can work and so she can understand what is going on in my heart.

                  I can honestly admit that I have run from her on 2 occasions. The first occasion I felt like she was not doing anything to try to make it work. So I felt the need to leave. I became very depressed after and felt like I may have lost her forever. Thank God she came back and found me. The second time I don’t really know what happened. We where finally close to being together. When I became confused about what was going on with her. I became really emotional and retreated. It did not take very long for me to realize I made a huge mistake. I know I can’t live with out her. I felt like I let her down because after us coming so far and her doing so much for me that I was not there for her. I also felt as if I was not living up to everything I said to her. I take pride in my feelings for her and needed to keep the integrity strong of what I said. So I immediately tried to fix what I did. By that time she already started to inch her self away from me. Then eventually it became her retreating 10x what I did.

                  I understand her and I understand how much of a challenge I can be for her. I understand that I need to give her as much time as possible for us to be together. I once told her that whatever paths we both chose in life, that are two paths would come together. I truly believe in this. Because are relationship is challenging and is tough on her. This is another reason why I am so open with her. I don’t want it to be tough on her I want her to feel at ease with me and to be able to understand me clearly. So I give her all the information she needs.

                  It has been 2 years and 4 months since we met. We are still not together. She has not let me in completely yet. When we finally do come together it will be for good. This is also a huge step for us both to take. I just have to assure that she does not have to feel like she has to sacrifice everything for us to be together. I trust her and support her decisions and understand that there are other things important to her. I also understand the circumstances involved in us coming to together. But this in no way makes me want to give up on her. I’m in love with her and I hold her above all things on Earth. I know that I was born for her and that we are meant to be together...
                • DEE
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                  couple things jill,

                  it's very interesting what you said about us being forced to do things such as reveal our feelings to someone. it's kind of a paradox with us. we WANT someone to ask us how we feel about them, but when it comes down to it, we never feel it's "the right moment" so we kind of put it off. it could be our conservativeness and desire to keep the status quo and fear of extreme change. basically, you kind of have to steer the "moment" into the right circumstances. as many sites have put it, it's a long dance with the crab, and scorpio is well-equipped to do this. what helps is telling the cancer how you feel first and later (perhaps months, weeks, days, whatever) if he returns the notion, you will know. but you have to be clear about you liking him. girls have told me they like me, but i normally take it that they like me "as a friend."

                  i dont' think there's a such thing as "over the top" emotionally for scorpios...

                  there really isn't much difference in what you are saying about giving him space and moving on with your life but being there when he contacts her, and what paul is saying in not texting him and waiting him out. to get a cancer to come directly at you, they have to feel that 1. they have some proprietary right to you, and 2. feel like they are losing you.
              • Awa
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                Hey Girl!

                I loved reading all of this! It's all beautiful! I know when you're in the thick of things it can be more savage than beautiful but keep all of this somewhere and in three years read it again. You will love the honesty and emotion. You may even read it to him!!

                HE LIKES YOU! He may not want you to be the mother of his children right now. But he does like you. Chastity is wisdom itself. Listen to her. Listen and hear and absorb. You haven't done that yet. Not judging girl - observing. Or maybe you have and I have mis-read.

                Chastity has spent ten years in Cancer's realm. I am in my 33rd year around mine ; ) Seeing as we were born in the same town I think I may have to forfeit some of those years. Our "Relationship" though, after attending the same school and living in the same town but not really hanging out together, began over three years ago. It went weird, then weirder, then savage, then awful, then non-existent, then always there for each other but nothing else, then whamm!!!! Here we are all loved up. Chastity is wisdom. Cancer vs Scorpio is about timing and time.

                Breathe. Just breathe.

                Good luck hun. Lay off him for awhile (longer that a week!!!) and just focus on you. Why do you need him so much?? When you're good with you you'll be much better with someone else

                xx
            • DEE
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              hm.

              i think you should break off contact... for a while, anyway.

              he could be playing with you, which is what can happen when we don't take someone that seriously. it's not an insult to you personally, mind you, that's just how we are. we take people for granted, and if you're "there" all the time then we can become somewhat complacent and overlook you as an exciting, arousing partner. being absent should make him miss you, and if it's for real, then he should come roaring back to find you. however, be wary that this can also backfire and he may just shut down completely towards you, depending on where your relationship is at this moment.

              if he doesn't come roaring back, then take it for the best that he was just looking for a playmate, and not something substantial, and move on.

              take my advice with a grain of salt though, as cancers can vary wildly at this point. being direct doesn't always work with us because even though we're such emotional creatures, we don't necessarily understand what we're feeling.
            • omg that's awful!

              That guy is being such a jerk. Sounds like he's attracted to you but isn't interested in a relationship beyond a sexual one. I know that's going to kill you but from the outside looking in, that's exactly what it looks like.

              Pam, I think you should just not text him, and see if he texts you, and how long it takes to happen. Play hard to get, or better yet, just try and forget about and get on with your life. You're clearly better than that.
              • Hello EVERYONE!

                Wow so many of you have replied and I really do appreciate ALLL of your outlook on this situation and I do appreciate the ones that are telling they think he just wants me for sexual pleasure. I mean in reality many people seem to have friends with benefits and if that's what he wants don't care I just want to know at this point what he wants...a friend? A friend with benefit or a companion??? what makes NO SENSE to me is the following he makes no time or effort to see me I mean if you want the benefit from this "friend" you would try to get it ....lol ....and if you are trying to get to know someone you would try to see them as well.

                All his free time is spent with the same 3 people that he works with and parties with and soon living with ....

                I DIDN'T msg or txt him for 3 days and then he started txting me off the hook saying " baby are we fighting why haven't you been answering me lately" and when I do finally answer he says how much he wants to see me and finally we make plans that never go through ....like tonight .... and then we fight about it ..... I mean what does he want from me ....when I try to move on and he doesnt let me he continually msgs me and so on but yet I try and try to see him but he always has plans with the same ppl all the time. I mean come on ...so finally I told him today " I don't get why you always say you want to see me because clearly you don't if you did you would find a way or time to do so " and his reply was " oh yes babe that' sit you're on to me I don't want to see you that's why I always msg you and tell you I want to see you....what's my point to do that" and then I said " I dont know you tell me" finally he replies saying " I guess i'm gonna have to start keeping you guessing from now on haha " and I laughed so hard and said " babe when havent' you done anything but that"

                I mean we've slept together only once at new years and that was six months after us talking so the guy has been talking to me for quite some time and has had sex once with me .....so i dont even feel liek he's "using" me cause it's only happened once ...and I talk to him almost everyday.... and i know when I don't msg him ...he WILL msg me no doubt about that.... but it's frustrating cause I can't move on cause I know within days i'll hear from him and I get happy but it's the same thing over and over .... and I don't even undrestand why a guy would even put up with this headache if i'm not his girlfriend or friend iwth benefit ...what's the point?!?!?

                Right now we are txting and he was saying "you like to argue with me " and I said " Actually I don't ...if anything it's frustrating ...our situations is frustration" and he said " I don't enjoy it either" ..........I HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING TO THAT YET .........I don't know what im gonna say ....

                I still haven't seen him since new years ...:( .......( well I saw him thursday for 2 mins cause I picked up some meds for him and brought to his work cause I knew he was sick but that's it)
                • DEE
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                  oh i forgot to mention

                  once we get what we cling to

                  sometimes we dont' really want it or know what to do with it.

                  we're very strange. it comes across as, "don't leave me, i need you, i can't live without you! however, i want my space, but just be absolutely available when i want you."

                  we take a looooonnggg time to make up our minds. 6 months is NOTHING. we're a very immature sign, though it may not seem that way at first. my suggestion is to look as enticing as possible whenever you see him. we're shallow like that. we're constantly second-guessing ourselves in terms of "is there anyone else better out there that we might be interested in?" and frankly, physical appearance is a huge part of that. i also think you might need to be a bit more assertive in your relationship. we do well when we know where boundaries are. we're very reactionary.